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Posts tagged trans/intersex

Gender Identity, Revisited

I've been meaning for quite a while to revisit this post (which, i note, i wrote nearly exactly 2 years ago now) - since, in fact, Luke aka AnarchoAspie included it (along with this one) in his zine, for which i inexplicably can't find a link (which i would have sort of liked to have been given the opportunity to do a slight edit due to things like hyperlinks not showing up in a printed format, but never mind) - because i had a creeping feeling that i would no longer agree with parts of it. The desire to revisit it was increased when Urocyon posted her own response to it, here, and even more so when Amanda Baggs then referred to that in her post on intersectionality (which i need to write a further response to the class part of). (I'd like to note here that both Urocyon and Amanda are much better at writing clearly and concisely than i am...)

On re-reading, there's actually not that much that i feel differently about now. One thing that stands out is a terminology issue - throughout, i was using the phrase "trans people" to exclusively mean transsexual people, whereas i'd now go with a much wider definition of the term "trans", to tentatively even include the likes of myself (although it still feels a little potentially-appropriative, as someone who neither desires to physically transition nor transgresses gender in any visually-obvious-to-a-passing-stranger way (well, unless long hair counts, but i really don't feel like, at least combined with a beard, it does)... but i've been told by visibly-trans, transitioning-transsexual friends that i "should" use it, so...) There's also the uncritical use of the term "primary" to describe the subset of transsexuals who are aware of their transsexuality from early childhood, which i probably wouldn't use now because of the possible unpleasant connotations of a hierarchy of who is "truly" transsexual and who isn't (although, it has to be said, i'm not aware of any less-loaded terms to distinguish between those who know they are transsexual from an early age and those who come to realise it later in life - if such terms are needed at all, which they might not be).

I've also since then become more aware of the range of terms used to describe gender identity or lack thereof: while Amanda uses "nongendered", which works for me, i've also encountered "agender" and "neutroi" (although the latter seems to be used primarily by/for agendered people who wish to physically transition to a "gender-neutral" or "undifferentiated" form: i'm also not sure if it's singular "neutro" and plural "neutroi" (which sounds vaguely Greek), or singular "neutroi" and plural "neutrois", or singular and plural "neutrois" (which sounds vaguely French), nor how to pronounce it, so i wouldn't use that one for me). I've even discovered a forum which includes specific discussion areas for agendered/nongendered/neutroi(s) people, although i haven't got round to registering or posting there yet... so i'm no longer feeling quite as much like i did when i wrote another piece which somehow never made it into a proper blog post:


*I don't want to "do gender" at all. I feel like i don't have a gender, and more than that, don't want a gender. I want to live in a world where the concept of gender was never even thought of.

And that's never bothered me on an internal level - but then i see all these conversations about gender and genderqueerness all over the web, and they're all awesome, but the implication of them seems to be that everyone is supposed to have a gender identity and a gender presentation, even that it's impossible not to - and i just want to scream "BUT I DON'T! Am i a complete unperson?"

But then, maybe i'm deluding myself - maybe it is true that everyone has a gender presentation, whether they think they do or not... but in that case, what is mine? I say that i choose clothes purely for comfort and practicality - but then, is that *entirely* true? Aesthetics does play some role, because there's a range of colours that i buy clothes in - black and earth tones (brown, beige, khaki, dull greens), occasionally red or yellow, but almost never white, and absolutely never blue - that has to be aesthetically motivated, or else i'd buy clothes absolutely without regard to colour, right? But does gender have anything to do with that? Is my dislike of blue because of its association with masculinity, because of its association (in the UK) with political conservatism, or just because i think it's a visually ugly clash with the colour of my hair and skin?

I look unambiguously male because of my facial hair, but the only reason i have it is because i don't like the sensation of, and can't be bothered to spend time on, shaving. Likewise my hair is long mainly because i don't want to pay for a haircut. I have never worn any form of make-up, nor wanted to. This kind of not-caring seems to be culturally gendered "masculine", but i find it hard to see how not caring about appearance can be gendered any way at all, rather than being at a neutral, equidistant point on the scale (if a scale even exists). It strikes me, in fact, that not-caring-about-presentation equalling "masculine" is a sign of institutionalised misogyny - the male/masculine is seen as the "norm", and the female/feminine as the "deviant" "other", to the extent that whether you are male or female, not doing anything about one's appearance or presentation gets one gendered as "masculine".*


I do still often feel that fundamental level of confusion, though, due to the fact that i don't (and probably never will, based on the principle that personal experience is the only true and full understanding, or "who feels it knows it") really know what "gender identity" is - as Amanda says:

Gender is a concept that, while I understand intellectually that it is greatly important for other people, is entirely absent and incomprehensible to me. I imagine that it must be some collection of aspects of a person’s identity that all cluster together in most people’s minds, whereas I’ve spent my life oblivious to how they are connected or why I would want to connect them, and innocently trampling all over people’s ideas of what it means to be masculine, feminine, or even any particular point in the middle.

While i can completely get my head round (even tho i've never experienced it) the idea of feeling dysphoria about one's physical sex, on the level either of "body-map" issues or of needing a certain balance of sex hormones to function "right" physically and/or mentally, and i am aware of (and can perceive at least some of, even if i thoroughly disagree with, the cultural reasoning behind) the personality qualities regarded culturally as "masculine" and "feminine", it's the bit somewhere in between that i feel like i'm missing - the idea of being "a man" or "a woman", rather than being (or wanting to be) physically male or female, or choosing to present oneself as masculine, feminine, butch, femme, androgynous, or whatever. I'm not sure if this is completely a function of being agendered myself, or if some people might lack a gender identity themselves, yet understand in a more solid way what it is for others to have one - in which case, i'd need an additional term to agendered/nongendered, perhaps something like "gender-blind" (analogous to faceblindness, perhaps? although i'm not, or at least not strongly, prosopagnosic)? Gender-impaired? I don't know; i do know that i'm way over my head when reading, for example, discussions like the one between Trin and Elizabeth here, and, likewise, find it incredibly hard to get my head round the "conceptual sexual orientations" discussed here (since i don't know how "to gender" anyone...)

Anyway, yes, i'm back to posting now, and aiming to post a bit more regularly, but as i'm off for 5 days tomorrow to do the Family Christmas thing (which, as there's... interesting... family stuff going on at the moment, might be rather more preoccupying than usual), it might be a week or so til the next one. Hope everyone is surviving the weather, not having to deal with too much non-accepting-of-identities crap from their families, and enjoying whatever (if anything) you choose to celebrate at this time of year...

Reclaiming words: Who can reclaim what?

I suppose i’d better start this post with a warning, however obvious it might be: this post will, by necessity, contain many words which many people will find hurtful and/or offensive. It’s pretty much impossible to talk about the politics of reclaimin…

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Terminology request: trans and genderqueer

I want to post in more detail about this sort of thing, but haven't time/spoons right now - however, i've had a couple of conversations (one here, the others have been with an offline friend and on Facebook) where the same thing has been mentioned, so i'd like to ask others what their opinion/usage is...

It seems like the ways that i use the terms "trans" and "genderqueer" is the opposite way round from how many (most?) other people use them:

I tend to use "trans" to describe people who either transition from one sex to another (transsexual) or who deliberately present themselves as the (broadly) binary gender opposite to that traditionally associated with their physical sex (transvestites/crossdressers*, drag performers, etc), and "genderqueer" to mean a much broader group of people, including the genderless/agendered (like myself), those who feel they are a mixture or composite of both "binary" genders, those who feel they have a strong gender identity but that it's not one of the binary genders, etc - basically, anyone who isn't cisgendered (and possibly some people who are cisgendered, but still oppose the gender binary). Thus, for me, most (if not necessarily all) trans people are genderqueer, but not all genderqueer people are trans (I tend to say that i am genderqueer but not trans).

*I'm also not sure what the difference between those 2 groups is, although i've been told that there is a difference (which confuses me a bit as the terms are respectively Latinate and Anglo-Saxon synonyms for each other). I tend to get hung up on the idea of clothes having gender, as to me, as clothes are inanimate, the only gender an item of clothing has is that of the person wearing it (shades of Eddie Izzard's "It's not women's clothing, it's mine") - but that's a side issue...

However, it seems like a lot of people - possibly the majority of trans/genderqueer activists - see the terms the other way round, regarding "genderqueer" as a subset of "trans" - thus "trans" being the more inclusive term, including anyone not cisgendered, and "genderqueer" being the non-binary or non-transitioning subset within that...

So, what is the generally-agreed-on usage (if there is one)? Would the majority of people in the trans/genderqueer/etc community consider a cissexual, non-transitioning genderqueer person to fall within the definition of "trans"? Is "genderqueer" best understood as a subset of "trans", or vice versa? Or is neither strictly speaking a subset of the other, but more like an overlapping Venn diagram - where some/many/most trans people are also genderqueer and vice versa, but there are both trans people who are not genderqueer and genderqueer people who are not trans?

For me, i think it would feel somehow unfair and/or appropriative to call myself "trans" - like i was claiming the identity and/or experiences of other people for myself, when i really don't have those experiences at all - i have never experienced body dysphoria, for example (or indeed identification with my body either positively or negatively), nor have i or likely ever will i experience being read as the opposite of what i identify as (more as something that has no relevance to my identity either way, which is, i think, far less traumatic and more just vaguely silly - being described as "male" or "a man" does make me feel dissonance, but only in a slightly bemused way, not the profoundly upsetting way that it affected many of the trans women i know) - but then, i don't feel like i'm being appropriative when i call myself "disabled", despite the fact that i don't have the experiences of a physically impaired person and that, for many people in the cultural mainstream, "disabled" means "physically impaired" - but is me-as-a-non-transitioning-genderqueer calling myself "trans" more like me-as-a-mentally-but-not-physically-impaired person calling myself "disabled", or more like, say, someone with a physical (but no other) impairment calling hirself "neurodiverse" (which i would consider appropriative)?

So, um, yeah. I can't seem to find any "official" definitions of "trans" or "genderqueer" stating which of the two is the more inclusive term, and i'm not 100% sure where my own (possibly wrong) understanding of the definitions came from - most likely from conversations with the trans woman friend who first opened my eyes to the existence of gender identity (prior to knowing her, i had lived under the impression that gender identity isn't innate for anyone, but comes entirely from socialisation processes that i had missed - a position that i think some cissexual socialist and radical feminists still seem to take), and others i got to know through her, who were all fairly "feminine", binary-identified fully-transitioning trans women (it wasn't until much, much later that i even knowingly met any trans men or FAAB genderqueers, which makes me still find the common assertion that trans men and FAAB genderqueers dominate trans community and discourse very strange and not-my-experience), to whom i would be a "trans ally", but pretty definitely not "trans" myself...

So if anyone can shed any light, i'd be grateful, as i don't want to be using terms at cross-purposes to others using the same terms, especially with the levels of emotional investment that many people seem to have to them. I, personally, am not so strongly attached to my usage as to want to cling on to it in the face of opposition, as i basically feel that i know what i am, even if i don't know the "correct" word for it - but i don't want to use terms to describe myself that inadvertently either appropriate others' experiences, could be construed as denial or distancing from other people on the gender-variant continuum, or would seem to most people to be inherently nonsensical or self-contradictory...

Recent Links of Awesome #4, and a self-set challenge

Another link roundup, as i haven’t posted in a while…Breaking news, via FRIDA, cripchick and various Facebook friends* – at least 91 disabled activists from ADAPT (the US’s equivalent organisation to DAN) were arrested yesterday outside the White Hou…

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Call for papers: Bodily Differences – Social and Scientific Technologies of Self-Making

Another one via FRIDA:Call for papers: Bodily Differences – Social and Scientific Technologies of Self-MakingMay 8 & 9, 2009Laurentian UniversityOntario, Canada”I mean for us to embrace our myriad of bodily differences, to understand our lives as ordin…

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Recent Links of Awesome #3

And once again, i meant to write loads of proper blog posts in the last week, but somehow didn't find the time and/or energy to actually do any of them (or a long list of other things i intended to do). This is the effect that winter has on me.

(I've also got a VERY busy couple of weeks ahead, in which i'm not sure if i'll have the chance to blog much, which is frustrating... tho not too frustrating, because some of the reasons for the next couple of weeks being very busy are very exciting... but that will be revealed when i have more time to blog...)

So, for now, i'm just going to post some more links instead:

Andrea of Andrea's Buzzing About has a great post on diagnosis and why it isn't something horrifying, 4 Stages You Don't Have To Go Through (in which she touches on similar themes to my recent post on teleology).

This is another beautiful and powerful post from Amanda at Ballastexistenz, about which i can't say much coherently in words, except that i find it both incredibly moving and all too familiar.

lilwatchergirl has posted a great post on Impairment, Disability and why we still need the Social Model at Through Myself and Back Again. Dammit, i really want to be doing that course... ;)

There has been a lot of discussion in the queer blogosphere about the passing of California's Proposition 8, which effectively banned same-sex marriage, in the recent US election, and the blaming of African-Americans for it by white queer people which followed it. Two brilliant posts which express my views on the subject much better than i ever could are by Cedar at Taking Up Too Much Space and Tobi at No Designation:

Violence, Racism and Neo-Liberalism, or why I'm not upset over Prop 8

If Not Marriage For All, How About Marriage For None?

(I do intend to take on the subject of marriage myself at some point, using both these and other, fairly unrelated anti-marriage arguments. Probably fairly far down my list of posts to write at the moment, though...)

Cedar also recently asked the question "What would an anti-oppressive world look like?", which has had surprisingly little response - if anyone reading this would like to contribute, i thinki the discussion could get highly interesting...

Staying on the subject of trans* politics, i was quite pleased to see probably the best discussion of trans* issues i have seen on a "mainstream" feminist blog here at Feministe. (I don't really have very much to add to it, except to second nearly all of the trans* posters there...)

(Then again, Feministe has always been one of the best of the "mainstream" feminist blogs when it comes to issues such as trans* stuff, disability, BDSM, sex work, etc. There's a reason that i link there and not to Feministing or Pandagon...)

Finally (for now), Rad Geek had a great post on anti-psychiatry a couple of weeks ago: On Sound and Fury. (And that's something else i need to write properly about, but, again, is probably pretty far down the list at the moment...)

Actual original writing may or may not be forthcoming...

Call for papers: The Body as a Site of Discrimination

via FRIDA:

Call for submissions: The Body as a Site of Discrimination - A Multidisciplinary, Multimedia Online Journal

The Body as a Site of Discrimination will be an interactive, educational, multi-disciplinary, high quality, critical, and cuttingedge online journal. This creative project will fulfill the degreerequirements for two Master's of Social Work students at SFSU. This is a call for submissions to explore the following themes, but other interpretations are also encouraged.

- Disability and Ableism
- Fatphobia or Size Discrimination
- Ageism
- Racism
- Gender Discrimination
- Transphobia, non-conforming gender identities, sexual assault, sexism, and reproductive rights

Cultural and academic communities are invited to contribute for a well-rounded exploration of the theme. The significance of this project is to examine the intersectionality between varying forms of body-based oppressions. Crossing disciplines is necessary to understand this matrix of discrimination and will lead to inventive strategies of change and resistance. The outcome of this journal will contribute to the body of knowledge and serve as a resource for subsequent generations of social workers and other helping professionals.

Entries can explore activism and resistance around these issues, focus on social justice, and implications for social work practice and policy. Representative voices from the identified communities are encouraged to submit. Submissions can include personal narratives, research articles, performance and visual art, fiction, poetry, music, etc. Electronic copies of submissions will be considered for publication.

All submissions must be received by January 15, 2009 to bodydiscrimination@gmail.com

Please pass on this call to any interested parties and contact us if you have any questions.

Thank You

Editors-in-Chief
The Body as a Site of Discrimination

Protest against Kenneth Zucker in London, 1st October

Via Bird of Paradox and Questioning Transphobia:Demonstration against Ken Zucker (the man who proposes reparative therapy for gender variant kids)October 1st, 8.30am, The Royal Society of Medicine, 1 Wimpole Street, London W1G 0AEThe demo is organised …

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